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DIA Links Mentioned by Blum

Blum mentions DIA’s Directorate for Management and Operations as being the main office involved. He also claims they have a Project Aquarius. (p.33)

Blum says he phoned the DIA office in the Pentagon and talked to Phillips. (p.50)

Blum states that the FBI went to the DIA headquarters in Pentagon room 3E258 to ask questions about the leaked 1987 Top-secret MJ-12 document. (p.209)

Blum states that Col. Harold E. Phillips, (Col. John Alexander) U.S. Army was transferred to the DIA in June 1985. Blum states that he entered the Army as first Lieutenant, has a graduate degree in electrical engineering.

In 1986 Blum claims that Phillips became "Associate Coordinator of Space Reconnaissance Activities, " inside the DIA. This made him an assistant to the DIA’s representative to the National Foreign Intelligence Board’s Committee on Imagery requirements and Exploitation (COMIREX) – one of the most sensitive and powerful jobs in the intelligence community.

DIA is persuaded to convene a top-secret working group to investigate UFOs (40)

Mentions arrivals at the Pentagon DIA Directorate for Management and Operations by various high-level scientists and intelligence people invited for the first meeting of the UFO Working Group. (p.41)

DIA – UFO Links

Blum mentions that in the fall of 1983 researcher Bill Moore got a call telling him that Korean Flight 007 "had been shot down over the Soviet Union – before the story hit the press." (p.237) The agency in change of the investigation of the Korean incident was DIA. At the point hours before the story had hit the press, it would be safe to assume the only people who would know would be people at DIA headquarters.

Bill Moore produced a flow chart showing the hierarchy of government agencies involved in the UFO cover-up. This chart was composed based on information he had discovered from people on "the inside." The DIA is given a key role in the chart.

It is generally believed that Bill Moore’s top contact Falcon who was the main source of most of the material he received was with the DIA. The Blum encounter with the DIA UFO Working Group oddly occurs at the same time as the two-hour UFO Cover-up Live documentary which was filmed in Washington DC, home of DIA headquarters. All evidence pointed to Falcon as the initiator of the UFO documentary and source of much

of the information used on the show.

 

In Phil Klass’s January 8, 1988 phone interview with Richard Doty, Doty made a statement, which also pointed to the Falcon as being in Washington. Doty told Klass that he had retained a lawyer to "take action" concerning the story he had leaked the document. He then claimed that Moore had named the man he had gotten the documents from. (MJ-12)

"He gave the person’s name in the affidavit that he received the documents from, and this person – I don’t know him – this person in Washington D.C. My attorney went to Washington D.C. and spoke to this person and he denied ever giving Bill Moore anything although he said that he had regular contact with Bill Moore.

More importantly, in the same interview Doty states that the FBI investigated the MJ-12 document and interviewed the same person in Washington about the document. In a question from Klass as to who produced the documents Doty stated,

"Well, the FBI knows that. The FBI knows who did it. That information was provided to the FBI. The FBI interviewed this person and of course this person denied that he gave them to Moore . . The FBI never pursued it, I don’t know why, unless they couldn’t. I don’t know if there was any law that this person broke. I don’t know if it is public record or not, but you’ll have to go to the FBI to find out. But I know for a fact they interviewed him – this person in Washington, D.C."

Now Blum, in his book "Out There" tells a story that closely matches what Doty told Klass about going to Washington to interview people about the MJ-12 document.

The two foreign counterintelligence FBI agents, according to Blum, go to room 3E258 in the Pentagon. This is the office of the Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, as they had learned the DIA was "covertly investigating UFOs." They were there asking for help in their investigation of the MJ-12 document. Blum writes,

"It was the FBI’s undisputed responsibility to investigate thefts of classified documents. And that was why, I finally learned, the two agents had come to the DIA looking for guidance. They were trying to determine whether an incredible UFO document had been stolen from the government of the United States. And, more perplexing, whether the document was genuine."

Blum even states that the UFO Working group discussed the document, and that Colonel Phillips confirmed the fact that the FBI was asking questions about the legitimacy of the MJ-12 document, as if he had been interviewed.

The FBI did investigate the MJ-12 document. In the 22 pages that make up FBI file 65-81170 they refer to an investigation by INTD, Section CI-2." A note made related to A COPY OF THE MJ-12 document, which appeared in Dallas stated, "attempt should be made to determine any DOD interest in the enclosed document." There is no record of any visit to DIA headquarters at the Pentagon in the fall of 1988, and all the FBI documents are dated in 1991 almost 4 years after the document was first made public.

The DIA Falcon Link

If Doty’s story about Moore identifying the man behind the MJ-12 documents to the FBI is true, the trip of the counterintelligence agents to the DIA Headquarters in the Pentagon, mentioned by Blum, indicates the man Moore identified was in that office. As Coleman said knew him and that he had a definite need to know, all point to one of the upper echelon persons in DIA headquarters in 1988 when the FBI made their trip.

Bill Coleman told Billy Cox that Falcon, who was in the audience at "UFO Cover-up . . .Live" was definitely with "the agency" and that he had "need-to-know security credentials." Cox stated,

"Coleman said he was totally surprised by the Falcon’s testimony, and didn’t know what to make of it. But Coleman was an Air Force censor and knows a lot more than he lets on. But he tends to be skeptical about government cover-up stories, or at least that’s the face he wears around me. Anyway, he said that the show had gotten his curiosity ignited and he was going to make a concerted effort to "get to the bottom" of the Roswell thing. Unless, of course, the government decided that his curiosity wasn’t in the best interests of national security, in which case he would get a debriefing. I said, ‘Bill, if that happens, will you at least let me know about it?’ Coleman says, ‘No.’"

Doty was not with an "agency" and Coleman would be more likely to know people in the DIA than the CIA.

 

 

In Phil Klass’s January 8, 1988 phone interview with Richard Doty, Doty made a statement, which also pointed to the Falcon as being in Washington. Doty told Klass that he had retained a lawyer to "take action" concerning the story he had leaked the document. He then claimed that Moore had named the man he had gotten the documents from. (MJ-12)

"He gave the person’s name in the affidavit that he received the documents from, and this person – I don’t know him – this person in Washington D.C. My attorney went to Washington D.C. and spoke to this person and he denied ever giving Bill Moore anything although he said that he had regular contact with Bill Moore.

More importantly, in the same interview Doty states that the FBI investigated the MJ-12 document and interviewed the same person in Washington about the document. In a question from Klass as to who produced the documents Doty stated,

"Well, the FBI knows that. The FBI knows who did it. That information was provided to the FBI. The FBI interviewed this person and of course this person denied that he gave them to Moore . . The FBI never pursued it, I don’t know why, unless they couldn’t. I don’t know if there was any law that this person broke. I don’t know if it is public record or not, but you’ll have to go to the FBI to find out. But I know for a fact they interviewed him – this person in Washington, D.C."

Now Blum, in his book "Out There" tells a story that closely matches what Doty told Klass about going to Washington to interview people about the MJ-12 document.

The two foreign counterintelligence FBI agents, according to Blum, go to room 3E258 in the Pentagon. This is the office of the Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, as they had learned the DIA was "covertly investigating UFOs." They were there asking for help in their investigation of the MJ-12 document. Blum writes,

"It was the FBI’s undisputed responsibility to investigate thefts of classified documents. And that was why, I finally learned, the two agents had come to the DIA looking for guidance. They were trying to determine whether an incredible UFO document had been stolen from the government of the United States. And, more perplexing, whether the document was genuine."

Blum even states that the UFO Working group discussed the document, and that Colonel Phillips confirmed the fact that the FBI was asking questions about the legitimacy of the MJ-12 document, as if he had been interviewed.

The FBI did investigate the MJ-12 document. In the 22 pages that make up FBI file 65-81170 they refer to an investigation by INTD, Section CI-2." A note made related to A COPY OF THE MJ-12 document, which appeared in Dallas stated, "attempt should be made to determine any DOD interest in the enclosed document." There is no record of any visit to DIA headquarters at the Pentagon in the fall of 1988, and all the FBI documents are dated in 1991 almost 4 years after the document was first made public.

The DIA Falcon Link

If Doty’s story about Moore identifying the man behind the MJ-12 documents to the FBI is true, the trip of the counterintelligence agents to the DIA Headquarters in the Pentagon, mentioned by Blum, indicates the man Moore identified was in that office. As Coleman said knew him and that he had a definite need to know, all point to one of the upper echelon persons in DIA headquarters in 1988 when the FBI made their trip.

Bill Coleman told Billy Cox that Falcon, who was in the audience at "UFO Cover-up . . .Live" was definitely with "the agency" and that he had "need-to-know security credentials." Cox stated,

"Coleman said he was totally surprised by the Falcon’s testimony, and didn’t know what to make of it. But Coleman was an Air Force censor and knows a lot more than he lets on. But he tends to be skeptical about government cover-up stories, or at least that’s the face he wears around me. Anyway, he said that the show had gotten his curiosity ignited and he was going to make a concerted effort to "get to the bottom" of the Roswell thing. Unless, of course, the government decided that his curiosity wasn’t in the best interests of national security, in which case he would get a debriefing. I said, ‘Bill, if that happens, will you at least let me know about it?’ Coleman says, ‘No.’"

Doty was not with an "agency" and Coleman would be more likely to know people in the DIA than the CIA.